i make excuses for my ex and witness relatives telling myself that they're not responsible because they are under mind controll.
but is that good enough.
can treating someone as if they don't exist be excused ?
lou bou to (how did you come up with that name?)......
It's spelt wrong but it is how they say my name Robert in Chinese. A luo bou is a vegetable what we call a horse radish back home. I was teaching some children and as a joke complained about being named after a vegetable ..saying ...why can't you call me after a tiger or a dragon or something strong instead of a vegetable... when one sweet little darling spoke up and said.. but luo bou to ...luo bours are delicious Precious!
it's sad that someone is thinking bout that because of fear of being cast out by family.
i don't know this person, but a mutual aquaintence who knows i was a jw told me.
i'm going to try to relay info to help them.
Just a thought I have been living in China the past three years and I see the devotion and love the Chinese have for their children yet aborion I believe is fairly common So I wonder how much of the guilt I hear from woman who have had abortions back home in Australia can be attributed to ones social values
i make excuses for my ex and witness relatives telling myself that they're not responsible because they are under mind controll.
but is that good enough.
can treating someone as if they don't exist be excused ?
Enjoyed your thoughts Undercover especially this one Only once did I truly shun someone who was close...and I did it at one of the lowest moments in their life. And I felt like shit for days afterwards
You felt responsible for behaviour you considered wrong Good for you
If they couldn't punish you for free thinking or leaving the faith, the vast majority of us wouldn't look back as we walked out the door.
The real reason Control To call it love is bullshit
i make excuses for my ex and witness relatives telling myself that they're not responsible because they are under mind controll.
but is that good enough.
can treating someone as if they don't exist be excused ?
The Botchtower creates disabled thinking, self-righteous, holier-than-thou, haughty, judgmental, angry people. When one builds oneself on this kind of foundation, there is only one outcome that can be come from this and that is destruction.
So Heaven are you saying they are not responsible they can blame the Botchtower for their behaviour
I think its a question of being responsible for our behaviour, NOT allowing an organisation to dictate who we shun
Good point Acylotes Even so I doubt that you would be deliberatly rude to people you choose not to associate with when you met them in the street like so many witnesses do
We give them permission I was the same as you Nugget even had one around for dinner to encourage him back it always seemed so inhumane to me to treat them like dirt Now that I am on the receiving end I am convinced of it
it's sad that someone is thinking bout that because of fear of being cast out by family.
i don't know this person, but a mutual aquaintence who knows i was a jw told me.
i'm going to try to relay info to help them.
Erm, I hope you're not suggesting that God causes miscarriages?
No I am not sugesting that But there is definately one instance in the bible where he did as a punishment I'm sure others will know the scripture I am not able to look it up for you at present My point is that there are no scriptural laws in the old testament that consider the life of the foetus sacrosant ( please excuse any spelling errors I am in a net bar and there is no spellcheck on this computer)
i make excuses for my ex and witness relatives telling myself that they're not responsible because they are under mind controll.
but is that good enough.
can treating someone as if they don't exist be excused ?
I make excuses for my ex and witness relatives telling myself that they're not responsible because they are under mind controll. But is that good enough. Can treating someone as if they don't exist be excused ? My mother didn't I asked her why She said "I brought you into the world your still my son". I think for many shunning appeals to some witnesses. Feeds their self righteousness What do you think?
it's sad that someone is thinking bout that because of fear of being cast out by family.
i don't know this person, but a mutual aquaintence who knows i was a jw told me.
i'm going to try to relay info to help them.
I think it's wrong no matter what.
I was disfellowshipped for supporting my 14 year old daughters' decision not to have the child of her rapist. As a family we would have survived this tragedy but for the Elders poking their nose in.
As mrs Jones says "It is none of your business stay out of it"
Yes I believe in God and their are scriptures in the OT where he punished women by causing them to have abortions or would you prefer the more sesitive term miscarriages and none that condemn it
a couple years ago district convention - a pioneer family with two kids explained how they had ran out of funds and had no dinner...as they turned the corner out witnessing they saw a vegetable truck had spilled some produce in the gutter and so "jehovah provided in our time of need..." i felt like yelling get a job you bum stop starving!!
not encouraging.
this week an elder with pnemonia discharges himself from hospital, promising to remain home...so he can go out preaching!
How about some meat (roadkill ) Jehovah to go with the bread and veges I've been faithfully flogging Trashtowers all day.
as most of you know, my husband and i da's ourselves almost 8 months ago.
the communication with my family stayed pretty normal.
they would call once in a while and text me.
I am soooo upset, depressed and everything. I usually do things impulsively but i'm thinking about sending them all an email saying how i feel and then just letting them know that i will be disconnecting from them from now on.....any suggestions in this situation?
One suggestion They are disconnecting from you Their decision not yours Don't let them blame you Make that clear You want a normal family relationship like you are discovering with your non witness family It is their choice to shun you You don't agree with shunning that you think it is a disgusting practice
For your own peace of mind LoriJis always remind yourself you are not responsible You are no longer part of a cult family controlled by a handful of abusive cult fathers in Crooklyn
interesting stuff.. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101227/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_ancient_teeth.
-sab.
That's my tooth I lost it and it is 40 years old
